yeah and pay playre for being 24h around just waiting for a cloaky ;)

the part that cloakys have such hugh bonus is something special. what other tactic or typ of ship has a so big advantage.
permacloakys can't shoot u, thats right, but you have to live with the threat all the time and when systems are full with permacloakys most of them just want to be a threat and bring down the live in the system. just with being there and afk..

that this point is discussed so often, shows that it needs some work.

i don't say "lets easy scan for the cloaky and kill them", the cloaky must have his "cloakybonus". but not for those who stand only in a system, and maybe engage you every 3-4 days.

the most of them has a safespot and they stand still all the time...
so why not add a effect, like a spatial distortion that comes up after some time (maybe 30 or 45 minutes) and is scanable with probes. the permacloaky has to warp away, he has to play not to be afk, just moving or orbit all the time would not help because his cloak is disrupting the space around... maybe 0.1 AU

this will leave the cloaky advantage but gives pilots the possibility to do something against afk permacloakys.
you can still camp a gate with cloakys, who comes to a system and scans the gate with probes ^^ ?

and when you are a sci-fi fan ^^ in every space sci-fi series there is a way to find cloaked ships that stand around. by tracking his warp signature or because of a spatial distortion or many more ^^

They're supposed to be an invisibility button, not an invincibility button. They need to have a counter like everything else.

[quote=Drake Draconis]player a,b,c-f are indu chars.. skilled to indu and pi... what should the do against a 2 man tengu/loki cloaky gang, waiting for someone to dock off.../quote]


So you have a situation where you have a 4 man crew against a 2 man crew and you can't figure out what you should do against them..Lemme help.

1. Spend a couple months or less and (heaven forbid) skill que up some combat skills.
2. Send out bait.
3. Kill two man fleet with 4 man fleet.
4. Profit.

cloaky whine

How is afk cloaking fine?

Anything that allows you to have an impact in game without being at the computer is either botting or an exploit.

You chose which.

You can mine with out being at the computer?

Which programme do you use?

Regards,

Nice, quite a beefy and angry reply :)

Im not going to reply to the personal insults, as they are beyond the scope of this thread (and board too?).

However, You implied you could mine whilst being AFK. My reply was that, you cannot. You can be 'semi-afk', but you still need to input commands to the client every 5-10 mins. Also I never stated that a titan can use a covert-cyno, I stated that those are two outcomes from ignoring a afk cloaky. (read: a titan bridge or covert cyno).

My overall argument is however that parking in a system cloaked *should* be considered an exploit as no input is required, at all. However you give the threat of those danagers at any time. As the hosts do not know when you are actually at the computer. I am all for danager, but there should, again in my opinion, be a counter that does not allow them to be AFK. So in summary, my disagreement is there being no way to stop them, otherwise its fine :)

That is my opinion, don't get so angry over it ;)

Regards,

I concur.

Furthermore:

Obligatory: "Show me on the doll where the mean cloaky touched you."

And on top of that, I have to make the following points.

If a ship is cloaked, it can't:
- Target
- Engage
- Hurt You

If you can't deal with this:
- Give me your stuff
- Insert character into Biomass Queue over
- Move out of your mother's basement
- Take a shower

If your so stupid that you do not know how, then please jump into a well and stay there and think about it.

Jack, the quote you are using as a sig was, i think, originally

"War does not determine who is right, but who is left"

arent there like three other threads about this exact same thing, with all the exact same people posting the exact same things?

Can you expand a bit more on how this works?

I meant how does one go about finding a perma cloaky ship. currently.

Why trolling all forum topic you fcking moron ?